the moment many of you have been waiting for. big ackman in new york city. guys, take it away, andrew. >> thank you. and mr. ackman, thank i for being here. >> sure. >> we have been watching the number of reports that kate kelly has been doing. we have a number of follow-up questions. the first know is about your short position in this country. when did you start the position, at what price, and when does it end? the reason i ask is because michael johnson, ceo has said publicly that he believes you have puts that expire on friday. >> sure. very clear, we own no puts on herbalife. we are short the stock, only. we are not short any other company in the industry. just herbalife. we shorted the stock, i would say, seven months ago or so, and we've had our position since then and have built it up over time. >> at what point would you consider the success in terms of getting out of the position? >> success here, look, the company can survive in a middle grout. if it is found to be a pyramid scheme, it is a zero. >> at what point, if you succeed, you are donating